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jason9
modified 7 years ago

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This shows why a voltage doubler might want 4 diodes, not 2. The two circuits on the left show the circuit with 2 diodes and with 4 diodes. There is no difference seen because of the light load. The two circuits on the right are identical to the two circuits on the left except for the heavy load. The version with two diodes is limited by the capacitors causing it to produce a very low voltage since the capacitors are just 10uF, and the version with 4 diodes acts as a full wave rectifier when the voltage produced is less than the voltage produced by a full wave rectifier thus setting a minimum voltage it can get to. Therefore, for very heavy loads, it will act as a full wave rectifier since it’s unable to produce enough current to make even unity gain, let alone a gain of 2, when acting as a voltage doubler. If your dealing with light loads or it is designed for heavy loads, then two diodes will be fine. However, if it’s designed for an application that mostly acts as a light load, but can act as a heavy load briefly, such as during startup to charge some capacitors, then 4 diodes will be preferred since it can supply the extra current during the short period of heavy load.
published 7 years ago
hurz
7 years ago
Jason, four diodes does NOT make it a full wave rectifier. The two additional diodes are just come into action because the caps are fully discharged, and the diodes acts like a reverse voltage protection, even there are already 0.7V applied in the wrong direction to the caps which are electrolyt ones so they have a polarity!
jason9
7 years ago
Remove the caps and it acts as a full wave rectifier. With the high load and low capacitance values the caps don’t really matter. As you can clearly see, even if it doesn’t act as a full wave rectifier, it definitely boosts the output at a heavy load, which is clearly an advantage. The reverse voltage protection is another advantage. Therefore, 4 diodes can be said to be better than 2 diodes.
salo909
7 years ago
Hey man awsome schematic. Totaly love it.
hurz
7 years ago
Remove the two additional diodes and its already a full wave rectifier. The two additional diodes are not needed ! One half wave is going to one cap and the other half wave is stored into the seconde cap. There is no "boost" its just adding two half wave peak voltages.
jason9
7 years ago
In the circuits on the right, the load is so high the caps don’t really matter. Now, get rid of the caps on the two circuits on the right and nothing will happen on the one with two diodes while the one with four diodes acts as a standard full wave rectifier.
hurz
7 years ago
Can you forget for a moment the caps, and keep them at place were they suppose to be?
hurz
7 years ago
@jason9, two diodes are already a full wave rectifier for this kind of circuit, check this http://everycircuit.com/circuit/6414124300107776
jason9
7 years ago
I know. I’m talking about the standard full wave rectifying configuration that isn’t limited by the size of the caps.
jason9
7 years ago
But do you understand why a four diode voltage double might be preferred over a two diode voltage doubler even if two diodes is all that’s necessary?
hurz
7 years ago
Jason, you have to understand what a full wave rectifier is!
jason9
7 years ago
When I say full wave rectifier, I mean the configuration with four diodes as shown in the examples tab. I also understand that the voltage doubler can also rectify the full wave, but it is very limited by the capacitors. So, I add two diodes to make it act like the full wave rectifier in the examples tab when the voltage double isn’t supplying enough current. Do you understand?
eekee
7 years ago
@jason9: Looks to me like you just need to increase the capacitors to cope with the higher load. Tahe the caps of 'orange' up to 10mF and it gets to be almost the same as blue/green. No risking -0.7V across electrolytic caps.
hurz
7 years ago
@eekee, you are right, in case the caps are to small the seconde pair of diodes comes into action as reverse polarity protection. Anyway, its to late at -0.7 volt to protect the capacitors!
hurz
7 years ago
Jason, you say it acts like a full wave recitier with two diodes, but you want to make it look like a full wave rectifier with additional two diodes? Sounds unlogic. With four diodes it does NOT act as full wave rectifier, its already a full wave rectifier with two diodes. Is that so complicated?
hurz
7 years ago
Jason, I published a circuit for you, can we continue at that point or are you still stubborn loved in your four circuits which do not left much space for my explanations?

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