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zorgrian
modified 8 years ago

AUDIO GUITAR mosfet input guitar buffer

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Purpose: Front end to effects that'll provide a high Z or impedance input that won't load a passive pickup based guitar down. Additionally this stage has to provide a small gain. Background: recently it has become practically impossible to get jfet transistors such as the J201 or MPF102 etc. These are by no means the only through hole components being phased out. Almost all through hole components are earmarked for termination. It's a stupid move orchestrated by big industry. I don't have anything against surface mounted components but in many cases they are less appropriate. This circuit performs most if not all of the job that the equivalent JFET circuit would do. Some will argue that it isn't as warm a sound and a whole load of other esoteric subjective bricks might be thrown at me. However, I have been testing this and other small signal circuits using guitars and amplifiers that I know very well. The result is great! Yes I can hear a Difference but It's better! Like all my recent EC contributions, this circuit has a resistor in the path from the signal generator. @hurz helped me by demonstration of the fact that the EC signal generator will sink unlimited current. Actually in this circuit it probably wouldn't make much difference. I now put a resistor in the path on all circuits
hurz
10 years ago
Esoteric 😉 ! I think you like this sound, because the THD is about 2%, this gives cold sounding pure sine wave tones some little harmonics which makes the sound more full - warm. Problem here with simulation and real world is to find a good characteristic equivalent mosfet model parameter. The default ones are more for little integrated ones and can't drive much current. I also don't have good values 😕
zorgrian
10 years ago
I am using BS170 transistors becuase I have a box of them. Actually yes I like it because it does NOT add any colour to the sound or not much if it is not over-driven anyway. I figure that the rest of my circuitry, which varies from 4049UB biased to do whatever I want to valves (12AU7 and others). I was using JFETS to power the tone stacks before the signal hits the valves and I also have tone stacks after the valves (completely different sound) IN reality this circuit is used as a buffer more or less to make sure that a known high Z load is placed on the guitar. Then at least I know what I am starting with!
zorgrian
10 years ago
I just read what I've put here: TO make it more succinct, If I use these BS170 FETS at the front end and the output end of my effects or amplifiers, then 1) I know I can get the parts as I have a box of them and they are not short-listed for extinction from Mouser or other suppliers right now and 2) no colour is good as then I know that all the alteration to the sound definitely comes from whatever I put in-between the input and output FETs
zorgrian
10 years ago
The down-side to this circuit when built with BS170s is that it amplifies RF and other interference. I am playing around with caps going to ground on the input side: values of 47pF seem to reduce the RF amplification. I have a RIGOL 100MHZ scope and I can see the non audio stuff being amplified. I admit that I am using a solderless breadboard which offers almost NO ground-plane and so I am asking for trouble. I could solder the thing together on a piece of copper clad board
hurz
10 years ago
Have to check but bs170 i also have here..... Anyway, block input and power with inductors a few 10th of uH. Maybe this helps.
zorgrian
10 years ago
Okay I tried 300nH (at 1 KHz = Z of 0.0018 Ohms so this is OK for audio and doesn't sound bad at 20 MHz the Z is about 28 ohms and at 100 MHz the Z is 188 Ohms )
zorgrian
10 years ago
I've wound these inductors by hand so they are high Q. There is little difference in the rf noise pickup. I've assumed you meant me to put these inductors in series with the signal and power lines?
zorgrian
10 years ago
I don't see why there's such a difference in rf pickup between the J201 Jfet and the BS170 mosfet. Both of these devices have similar frequency characteristics and high input Z

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