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jpoulin0901
modified 7 years ago

Magnifier Multiplier

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I was wondering how high of a voltage I could possibly get using only a single bridge rectifier and passive components and came up with this. I'm actually amazed at how good the power factor and output ripple look for such a a simple circuit; especially while producing almost 10X the peak input voltage. An important thing to note is that although the power factor seems good over a wide range, the input power is essentially constant from no load up to about 10 W, so efficiency depends heavily on the degree of loading. I'm still working out the actual relationship but if anyone has a concise description of what it should be I'd be interested in reading it. To me the key really just appears to be the combined effect of the input and output reactors. At first I thought that unless they were identical, performance might suffer but a few basic tests at unbalancing them suggest that may not strictly be the case. Finding ~700 mH inductors with under 50 ohms of AC resistance may not be easy but if you can find an E core with a rewindable bobin its absolutely possible to make one. Otherwise I'd imagine you could probably use some larger oil-filled caps and smaller inductors - just so long as you can get a high enough Q factor overall to justify the resonator stage.
published 7 years ago
hurz
7 years ago
3A at 50 Ohm is more then 250Watt power dissipation into heat. Your coil needs a heatsink!
jason9
7 years ago
Define “passive components”. Do you mean no op-amps, logic gates, etc.? Or do transistors qualify as active? If so, why not diodes? You can make several kilovolts from only capacitors and diodes in a repeating chain, but unfortunately no more because of corona discharge. Nicola Tesla made hundreds, possibly thousands, of kilovolts from his very limited selection of components before semiconductors were even a thing! He hadn’t even used vacuum tubes in many if not all of his Tesla coils. The only nonlinear component he used was a spark gap. The way he made his Tesla coil was he had a transformer amplifying the voltage from the mains, then there was a capacitor on the other side of it forming a resonant circuit with its inductance, and then that was made a second time, but this time its energy source was the first resonant transformer, and there was a spark gap between the two resonant transformers so that the first one had to build up energy for a but before it could overcome the breakdown voltage of air and quickly dump all it’s energy into the second resonant transformer. Also, the second resonant transformer oscillated at a higher frequency. This created many hundreds of thousands of volts, and I once saw a video of a guy who made it and he used coils from the inside spark plugs for the first resonant circuit and fed it into a giant Tesla coil which must have been 20 feet tall and he ran it at night and giant thick arcs arced to the ground and also a nearby trailer. It was awesome. Good thing it didn’t start any fires. That one may have had transistors and stuff, but the idea remains the same.
jpoulin0901
7 years ago
@hurz: lol. Hey, I never said it was efficient, I just said it had an excellent power factor, low output ripple and an impressive voltage rise compared to a single stage Cockroft-Walton.😁 This isn't exactly my magnum opus, I just thought it was was interesting. The idea just popped into my head right before I had to get ready for work so I didn't have much time to flesh it out or track down the fatal flaw(s). That's what I like about you. You always seem make the time to burst the bubbles I blow. Kudos on first!
jpoulin0901
7 years ago
@jason9: If you look closely, what I said was "... using only a single bridge rectifier AND passive components..." None of what you wrote is wrong in and of itself but dude, I never said anything of the sort. Also, even though this thing is an interesting transformerless means of increased voltage, clearly a transformer is much better. As far as EC is concerned, a 1000:1 step up transformer is a totally doable and its single turn primarily can even have a gazillion H and zero resistance, so yeah I also get that making something like this work in a simulation is not the same as like.. real physics in the real world or whatever.. or so I've heard. (I don't know, I've never been.) Also I'm familiar enough with tesla coils and their spark gappy magic to have built a passable sgtc in both sims and real life.. Or maybe I dreamed I built them... Or maybe I'm dreaming now in which I guess never mind. It's been a crazy day tonight. 🙃
hurz
7 years ago
Not sure about your rectifier strategie, here we go with a peak2peak detector as usual. http://everycircuit.com/circuit/6519038305107968
jpoulin0901
7 years ago
The idea in my head had to do with using a 4 terminal, 4 diode bridge module. 3 terminal half bridges can certainly be found but literally everyone has a few full bridges just laying around. Your circuit be made from one too if the ac leads were simply connected.
sasa4250
1 year ago
Очень странная схема. Это умножитель напряжения? Почему так сделано? Зачем? Но очень интересно.

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