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thebugger
modified 9 years ago

Tube Heater Cycling

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The most common failure mode is heater exhaust, where if not properly handled, it just breaks somewhere, and even if your tube is new, it becomes completely useless. In order to increase the filament lifespan, you can build a simple cycling system, that constantly supplies the heater with some voltage (around 2-3V for a 6.3V filaments for instance) and when an input signal is received on your amplifier, the filament voltage jumps to 6.3V and the amp is immediately started. This will skip some of the heat up time for the amp as well. You must incorporate this system to the HV delay control circuit, so that when the filament voltage falls to 3.3V the HT rail must also be disconnected. This is important, because operating a tube at lower filament voltages with a full HT supply, may poison the cathode and ruin your tubes even faster! The circuit works as it follows: 1. When you enable the amp, the 3.3V heater voltage will enable and keep the tubes semi-turned-on. At this point the HT supply must be blocked and mustn't flow. 2. After an input signal above 2mV is detected (below 2mV it's mostly noise), the comparator starts shaping square waves at the output. A simple detector circuit rectifies this, at the peak voltage of around 11.3V and enables a second comparator, driving the voltage switching relay. After the input signal is disconnected, the detector capacitor starts discharging through the 1Mohm resistor. After it discharges to 2V the output disengages the relay and enters stand-by. The discharge time is around 6minutes with 1Mohm and 220uF. This is the moment to disengage the HT supply as well, with a servo loop to the HT control system.
published 9 years ago
hurz
9 years ago
Im missing superman? He is always to late. Anyway, using the open-loop-gain of an opamp as given fixed parameter is a weak design. Most opamp's just have a "typical" value of gain and might also have a minimum garanteed one. E.g. the typical might be 1000V/mV and the minimum is only 100V/mV. And this will change over temperatur and supply voltage. How bad is that? So to set on this parameter in a circuit design is quite uncommon. And to not mention which OpAmp is used is even more uncommon. What you simply need, is a negative feedback to set the opamp circuit to a constant gain e.g. not more then 100!
thebugger
9 years ago
It's using a TL071. It has a typical open loop gain of 200V/mV at 25dgs. The gain doesn't really matter, because it's a latch mechanism. As long as the capacitor is filled every few seconds (even minutes), the mechanism should stay latched. Worst case scenario is 60V/mV but that's with a 125dgs package temperature and even then a 10mV signal will be able to latch it. I don't plan on using this is an oven, so that shouldn't be a problem.
hurz
9 years ago
Yes, and the gain will be to high to detect silence. With 200V/mV even a few hundred uV at input (noise, hum,...) will activate all the time. Thats why i recommend a way to lower the gain to a specific one and do not use the open loop gain.
thebugger
9 years ago
I actually tried it, and it seemed to me that the open loop gain is much lower than anticipated. I found the open loop gain to be 600. An input signal of 10mVpk-pk brought the output to 3Vmax above the ground. So the open loop gain is more like 0.6V/mV at this configuration. Can't figure out why such a huge discrepancy. Basically only a phone signal of above 20mV activates it. I'll give it further experimentation
thebugger
9 years ago
How's that? Most noise is below 16mV, so there shouldn't be any false triggering now.

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