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Sine_eyed
modified 11 years ago

Power Blinkie

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When there's no time to mess around with baby blinkies, grab your favorite astable setup and swap out those cute little Nancy transistors for a matching set of Darlington pairs like you see here! Scoped this one on the net the other day- I'd wondered previously about implementing darlingtons into our beloved astable, but it went on the back burner of my mind cuz honestly, I really wasn't tryin to mess with anymore damn blinkies lol. But then I spotted this one (and a few others) and I had to give it a shot. The schematic (which can be found at Techlib.com) called for 2N4401's, and pretty straightforward component values- but I had to adjust those to get the circuit tuned up nice for show and tell. My thoughts?: it's cool- and, remarkably stable actually.. <=^)
published 11 years ago
rbrtkurtz
11 years ago
I world think that the whole point of Darlingtons would be to have ability to power much more than 2mA. Maybe something in the 200-500mA range (I don't remember the exact specs for a 4401 of the top head, but they should able to handle that). Going with the Darlington configuration, each pair will have a gain of about 10,000. That means you don't need big caps and small resistors to drive large loads. Normally, with just two BJTs, too push enough current the bases drive big loads, you would have to use small resistors and big caps. Thus limiting the operating frequency to some pretty slow speeds. With the Darlingtons, you aren't limited such slow speeds with large loads, because you don't need such small resistors and/or large caps to keep the base current high enough. There's a flipside to that, though. You could drive relatively small loads a few mA at really fast frequencies, because you could get away with huge resistors and tiny caps, and still be pushing enough current at the bases to switch the loads. Those the two reasons I would see for a Darlington setup. But just to drive a 9V 2mA load at around 1Hz, I don't see any real advantage over single BJTs. Anyhow, that's just my two bitcoins.
rbrtkurtz
11 years ago
Basically, the way this circuit is biased right now, you could easily drive 1A. Now, 9W would fry a 4401, but what are they good for? 600mW? Something like that? Crank those bulbs up to 450mW, and push 50mA through there. That should be child's play for those Darlingtons. Better yet, use a 4401 for the low current stage of the Darlington, and a TIP31 for the high current stage. Then a 9W 9V load is no big deal. Moar power!
Sine_eyed
11 years ago
There ya go @rky- that enough juice in ur lunchbox?..
Sine_eyed
11 years ago
Ya the schematic called for lamps @9V, 300mA. The math on that is V•I=P right? So 20 mW- or did I miss a decimal point? Yeah that value didn't work or so well here..
rbrtkurtz
11 years ago
9V x .3A = 2.7W
rbrtkurtz
11 years ago
And yes, now you're taking advantage of the darlingtons. ;)
hamilton1300
11 years ago
If you have to build a blinkie then yes build a smoking ass high power one!!!! :-D
faceblast
11 years ago
Use mosfets! I'll post a circuit
rbrtkurtz
11 years ago
Yeah I posted a power MOSFET multivibrator for Facebook a ago. I'll republish it. It's 2 weeks old. "For Faceblast and Sine_eyed" is title. But if you don't have suitable MOSFETs available, knowing how to use Darlingtons is handy.
Sine_eyed
11 years ago
Hey, you two have been great about this power blinkie thing and I appreciate it I do- but I really didn't have any intention to build a real one. Not yet anyway. I need to learn how to use darlingtons and mosfets properly, absolutely. But one thing I hold myself to is not to try and take on a project or learn something that's outside the breadth and width of my understanding of electronics thus far. The more you wanna learn- the more you gotta learn to learn it! That's what I've learned lol..
Sine_eyed
11 years ago
And honestly, I started looking into and trying to figure out the whole transistors as amplifiers thing only about...... wait for it........ 2 months ago! So yeah, I really wanna have a handle on a little 2222, or a 2907 before I jump into all that other stuff!

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