gorgut00

modified 6 years ago

Do not build this

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03:32:12

This is for learning purposes only. I've realized that certain people use this app in the opposite way I do. I use it to create theoretical circuits with the purpose of learning without creating and measuring years of circuits. My intention Isn't for anyone to create this circuit. That being said... 

I expected the voltage to be far greater then it is. I'm assuming this is a stun gun type circuit but the source I referenced from gave zero values.

published 6 years ago

hurz

6 years ago

The voltage at out is much higher cuz your input voltage even if its just theorie is wrong and to low. Its actually 170Vpeak what you get from mains 120VAC !

gorgut00

6 years ago

I'm not understanding what your saying. The input voltage is irrelevant. The important part is what's happening in the circuit. I was expecting the voltage to continue to increase with each stage but that doesn't appear to be the case.

hurz

6 years ago

First you take the wrong point as output. Second i dont know what you expect from a 5 stage voltage adder but with 120Vp and 240Vpp x 5 = 1200V not more. When you use the correct mains Vpp 340V then you get 1700V but all this when you monitor the correct point in circuit and set the input voltage correct to 170Vp http://everycircuit.com/circuit/6145636035198976 have fun!

gorgut00

6 years ago

Nice. Thank you. I think I became confused with my results when i added more then a single stage. I accidently probed the wrong output.

gorgut00

6 years ago

So is 120v ac more of an RMS measurement and like you said peak to peak is 170? My digital meter would get more of an RMS reading then a analog meter?

hurz

6 years ago

peak to peak its 340V. Analog or digital, they all show for sinewave the RMS value more or less correct.

yeahbuddy

6 years ago

villard cascade correct, each stage doubles the voltgae

hurz

6 years ago

@yeahbuddy, no its not doubling each stage, its adding each stage the initial voltage.

isaiahhsmith

6 years ago

I'm pretty sure some diodes would blow up before the voltage ever got to high, if you ever did make this circuit. Depends on what they're rated for though.

gorgut00

6 years ago

Potentially. Might depend on the amp draw.

hurz

6 years ago

Whats unrealistic big are the capacitors. This is dangerous for you and very expensive with 100uF. Do this for your own safty with 10nF high voltage capacitors.

gorgut00

6 years ago

I have no intention of building this. I just like to see how things work and this is a simple and brilliant design whitener came up with it. I chose 100uFat random. I deal with 47uF and 20uF in my tube amps, and yes, those caps in my amp could kill you. They are no more then 500vdc in my double ended amp.

gorgut00

6 years ago

Whoever

gorgut00

6 years ago

I pray nobody is ever at the business end of a circuit like this but their only saving grace is the low amperage

hurz

6 years ago

And if YOU propagate a circuit in public you should keep the current low with e.g. 10nF. 120Vp was already wrong and gave the wrong impression about the final voltage. You pray but you make a lot of mistakes in public. Better you store this as private as long you do not know how it works and how dangerous it is, right? Your "do not build this" is somehow a double moral. You have better said i @gorgut do not build that cuz i have no idea how it works and what the mains voltage is all about, because i @gorgut have never built such a dangerous circuit. Next time

gorgut00

6 years ago

👍

hurz

6 years ago

You are welcome, see you!

gorgut00

6 years ago

Your welcome for what? Nobody said thanks

hurz

6 years ago

👍

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