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jason9
modified 6 years ago

AC Miller Effect

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In a single transistor miller effect, as shown by my last miller circuit, the miller effect only amplifies the capacitance of the capacitor if the current is in one direction, but no current flows in the other direction due to the reverse bias of the transistor. In this circuit, there are two transistors, one to provide the miller effect in one direction of current, and the other to provide the miller effect in the other direction of current. However, since the miller effect is beta sensitive, and the beta is temperature sensitive, the miller capacitance is temperature sensitive. Maybe it could be used for a thermometer which measured the frequency of an oscillator.
published 6 years ago
BillyT
6 years ago
Good information
eekee
6 years ago
Fascinating! I didn't know about the miller effect. I might try to make a VCO out of it later. Regarding the temperature sensitivity, amplifiers commonly use a diode for thermal compensation. I don't really know anything about it other than that the diode is put in thermal contact with the transistor.
eekee
6 years ago
Oh, it's not a voltage controlled effect. Oh well, still cool.
eekee
6 years ago
And you were talking about the thermal effect as a good thing. Sorry, I just woke up. :)
jason9
6 years ago
It depends on what your using this for. If you need a very large capacitor, then the thermal effect is undesirable because the capacitance will change on you and you may seem to mysteriously lose or gain energy because of that. If your using it as a thermometer by measuring the change in capacitance like with an oscillator, then the thermal effect is desirable.
zorgrian
6 years ago
It certainly affects the frequency of oscillators. So yes you could easily use this as a heat sensor. A diode is often used in amplifier circuitry for this purpose. Im not sure what variation you'd get with transistors, nor am i very hopeful about the predictability of the curve
eekee
6 years ago
Yeah @ both. I wonder if there's a way to make a miller effect with an op-amp?
eekee
6 years ago
Tried negative feedback, results a little strange: http://everycircuit.com/circuit/6122228524777472
matt2496
6 years ago
Miller effect ruins high frequency response right?
jason9
6 years ago
Yup. The parasitic capacitor in a BJT might be about 5pF, but because of the miller effect it acts as if it is 500pF which is quite large for high frequency circuits.

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