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OverAster
modified 8 years ago

Very Simple Tesla Coil

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Tesla Coil that works probably...
published 8 years ago
WBCH
8 years ago
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I like it but why did you put the voltage at 800 VOLTS!!!!!!!!!!!
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
It won't work as it is now
hurz
8 years ago
WBCH saw it working even its impossible.
BillyT
8 years ago
Try http://everycircuit.com/circuit/5351930640728064
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
BillyT, your circuit is not a tesla coil either
OverAster
8 years ago
well clearly you need to put a bowl on the empty end of the transformer. I did this out of theory without intention to practice it. Turns out it does work kinda.
OverAster
8 years ago
I may not have used the right specs for each part but thats because I don't know them. :)
BillyT
8 years ago
@WTFCircuit, yeah I kinda guessed that, but am still waiting for all those people who say that is not a Tesla to show what they think one is. Now if it is not presentable with the components in EC, then maybe near enough is close enough. So what's your version?
hurz
8 years ago
The hole world calls this Tesla Coil even its not 100% correct, at least its not how Mr Tesla build its generator. His problem was to not have a switch. No relays and sure no transistors. But with a trick he come to a similar switching behaviour or even better. He charged up a voltage to some kilo volts till this voltage was high enough to jump over an air gap! Actually its the current which can flow across this air gap (spark gap) and this current is then used to power the Tesla coil primary side. A coil like you can see it here with a winding ratio of proximatly ~ 1:200. All in all, this circuit can be seen as modern Tesla coil implementation. @WTFcircuit, please correct me and all values ;-)
BillyT
8 years ago
👍
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
Yes, Tesla used a spark gap for his generator, while now we use more efficient solid state switches, but that is not the reason I say that isn't a tesla coil. All tesla coils are LC resonators, energy is fed at the resonance frequency of the secondary coil through the primary coil, which frequency depends on the secondary inductance and parasitic capacitance. This circuit requires the capacitance to oscillate, so without it it won't work in the simulation. IRL it works, even thow it isn't a very good circuit due to its simplicity
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
Check this: http://everycircuit.com/circuit/4792928299122688
hurz
8 years ago
Today we have generators and can tune them with the help of a PLL to its resonance point. While modulating the PLL loop filter voltage we can phase modulate the hole circuit and make cool sounds/music with it. Telsa must use resonance as generator substitution. Right?
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
What do you mean with "Tesla must use resonance as generator substitution"?
hurz
8 years ago
He must use a fixed frequency source generated somehow and TUNE the circuit resonance to this gives frequency. We are able to do wise versa.
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
I'm not following you, if the fixed frequency source il the secondary LC network we still tune the circuit to its resonance frequency. Else if you mean Tesla had a fixed frequency source and he tuned the tesla coil at that frequency then no, he had the tesla coil frequency fixed and then he tuned a primary LC circuit, triggered by the spark gap, at that frequency
hurz
8 years ago
Teslas setup was instable in any values - capacitors, inductors, resistors, temperatur, voltage. But he tuned, in a lucky moment, the spark gap "generator" or its "tesla coil" to an maximum of power.
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
What?
hurz
8 years ago
Then tell me, what was a stable reference he used?
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
The secondary coil resonance frequency; it isn't perfectly stable due to spark loading, which decreases the frequency of a few percent. But modern tesla coils still use the secondary frequency as a reference
hurz
8 years ago
The frequency depends on L and C both are not stable as I already said. Where do you see something stable like at least a crystal? I dont.
WTFCircuit
8 years ago
No One uses crystal oscillators for tesla coil, especially at high power levels, check the universal driver 2.7 for reference, you will notice the lack of ANY oscillator except the tesla coil itself
hurz
8 years ago
No one? What do you know about the univers?

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