EveryCircuit - Trigger for EC

6 years ago

there is no real noise within EC, and both of your circuit behave different, left 9kHz right 7kHz..... But i think i know what you mean, what i do sometimes is to place a microvolt AC source close to the oscillating frequency to trigger quickly the oscillation. While running the few microvolt are irrelevant, but for the start it will help to bring the oscillator out of balance. Just a few microvolt. What is the idea for the mosfet i dont see. Check this http://everycircuit.com/circuit/6429004622725120

APO69

6 years ago

As this isn't the real world, there are many situations that EC don't works fine. Sometimes need FET something not. That's the reason.

hurz

6 years ago

"How to simulate real noise", this is what you have said "real noise"! The MOSFET you have used makes both circuits different and makes them uncomparable. Different circuits do behave different. Nothing you can proof this way.

APO69

6 years ago

If you run again will see that te frequency are equal on both circuits. I don't know what are you seeing.

APO69

6 years ago

9,91Khz

hurz

6 years ago

9.91kHz because you run the simulation undersampled and this is the max frequency in this simspeed setup which is possible. Start both oscillators and zoom a little into the timescale, you will see, different circuits do behave different and oscillate different !

hurz

6 years ago

e.g. at 30us/s i see on the right 333kHz which is still not the truth and on the left 9.25kHz. Simspeed configuration is the most importante thing to setup to not generate chaos results

hurz

6 years ago

remove the mosfet and its what i see also in my posted link. Seems to be irrelevant if AC or DC source to bring the oscillator out of balance. Anyway, where do you see the "real noise"?

APO69

6 years ago

Has you see my 1 THz circuit? 'cos without FET don't works. Are you speaking about an emulator running over an emulator of seudo-java running over an emulator of linux adapted to many CPUs? Really. Are you talking about that?. It is impossible emulate real world in a computer.

APO69

6 years ago

The theory of quantum electrodynamics perfectly explains the impossibility of emulating the interactions between light and matter in a computer. Only large university or research computers are capable of approaching those calculations and using finite elements. Which, as its name implies, are finite.

APO69

6 years ago

I think you have plenty of time...

APO69

6 years ago

And I'm going to tell you something else. When you modify the timing, or the value of a resistance, or remove the FET I have put. All that you think you are doing is a lie, because the only thing you do is alter a binary value so that a code interprets it and shows you on a screen without resolution different values depending on the hardware you have. I tell you because I think you are in Matrix

APO69

6 years ago

So... when you change the timing one circuit shows one thing and the other circuit shows another, it is not my problem. If you read things right before expressing your ideas you would realize that I have put HOW how to emulate noise ... how ... how. My 4 year old daughter has understood the circuit perfectly, she has even helped me with other circuits. But I guess because she is a woman, she already takes advantage of you.

hurz

6 years ago

Wow, you seems to be lost and talking nonsense. My simple question was, "where do you have or see real noise"? You cant answer? ok. For the second part of simspeed and sampling rate of discret digital simulation environments i dont have question for you, i would recommend you read a little off line and try to understand before we can continue.

hurz

6 years ago

here we go without MOSFET, please calm down you look a little crazy http://everycircuit.com/circuit/5561727824166912

APO69

6 years ago

Sorry, i can't see any

APO69

6 years ago

Hahahahaha... You are using pc emulator. I'm using android S3 Samsung. Your story is like Cristobal Colón and the eggs. Do you know what I mean? When someone is the first doing something new, early appears someone talking about easy was for him to do the same thing. But I don't care, I like little crazy circuit... Ummm can yo do it on android?

hurz

6 years ago

I love that, people post circuit piblic cause they cant follow unlisted objects ... FYI, 60.3THz, im afraid what i have seen and read from you so far, you will loss any contest, much too little fantasy, and im normaly dont do such contests (boring), just watch them, but iPhone users have not enoug imagination whats possible and need always advice whats possible, so they are never at front they are always behind and against android-creativity the losers. Isn't that funny? Take it like a sportsman and dont be to angry, no need to shift that to your daughter.

APO69

6 years ago

😀 ok. I apologize for my daughter comment. I promise to be a good boy. I will take it like a "sportsman" so... be prepared

APO69

6 years ago

The written text is very different from a spoken conversation. Especially since you can interpret body expressions better. I apologize again for the joke about my daughter 😜

lenzrulz

6 years ago

Werner’s bad attitude sometimes brings out the worst in some of us...😬

hurz

6 years ago

Lenny, what a surprise you are looking for conflicts, this is what makes you happy. This is your only intention why are you on everycircuit. 5 years and learned nothing, die stupid as psycho.

lenzrulz

6 years ago

See what I mean?

hurz

6 years ago

i see what i mean, you are highly active in creating conflicts. If the topic is your self destroying circuit, you do not spend 1% of this power. All around Lenny there are bad talks, end you love that. Do your first circuit and have your first technical talk after 5 years of terror.

GLaDOS

6 years ago

HOW?!?!

lenzrulz

6 years ago

Good question...😂

dzikraa

6 years ago

This is so cool i like it a lot

hurz

6 years ago

Lenny, are you dodging, lol