EveryCircuit - Overunity

BillyT

7 years ago

Lets compare Apples with Apples, put a load on the output, draw the same wattage as the input, then look at the sums.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Im just going by what my creativity tells me haha

jason9

7 years ago

Here, try this. Decrease the frequency to 100kHz and leave everything else as-is.

hurz

7 years ago

243kHz is not that HIGH in frequency as you might feel today.

Dholms22

7 years ago

High enough to create what i need. Im just done living a li and i want the truth. Tesla did it, so can i

LeButch

7 years ago

Please dont tell me you believe in this free energy shit...

Dholms22

7 years ago

Of course i do. Theres way to much evidence and i hate payin 120 a month for electric. If your purpose is to troll that's fine.

fackinfack

7 years ago

And solar was free before it had to be built

LeButch

7 years ago

Ok, if this really worked and free energy is discovered, why do we still use common generators to power the world? It would be much more adorable for companies to sell energy generated out of nothing instead of buying fuel.

thebugger

7 years ago

First law of thermodynamics - Energy cannot be created, nor destroyed. Second law of thermodynamics - a closed system always experiences an increse in entropy until maximum entropy is reached. This is where the third law comes in - when maximum entropy is reached, the temperature of the system reaches absolute zero and you cannot further extract useful energy from it. Now in translation. The first law states that you cannot create energy out of nothing. You need to extract energy from a source that has low entropy - like a charged battery. Second law basically states that there cannot be any ideal system in our Universe. Basically everything in the universe as efficient as it can be, it cannot reach 100% efficiency or above. There will always be losses in heat. By friction, by resistance, you name it. In the battery example - a battery reaches a state of maximum entropy, when it gets depleted. Yes, you can recharge it and return it to a lower entropy state, but in doing so, you increse the entropy of some other thing. This means that even black holes which are the universe's most perfect energy sink and will last hundreds of trillions of years, will in fact, evaporate into nothingness in the far future. At this point even our Universe will have reached a state of maximum entropy, where you can't siphon energy anymore from anything. That is because the third law comes in play. An absolute zero state, means no viable energy can be extracted from the given system anymore, because its molecules have reached a state of rest. In conclusion I just want to add - check your facts, I don't know where you found ,,much evidence'' about such a system, but that's a load of sh*t. Remember this - every process in our Universe, whether it is us as humans being able to live, or a nuclear reactor providing power, siphons energy from a finite pool of energy. Even as I am writing this down, I use my brain power, which in turn will make me hungry so that I can restore my energy, and I will increase the Universal entropy state by a miniscule part.

LeButch

7 years ago

I find it funny how humanity developes further and further, but humans seem to develop backwards.

thebugger

7 years ago

No, just regular people tend to be more confident in the little that they know. There's actually a graph somewhere showing the relationship between confidence and knowledge, and it actually has a negative kink in the beginning, because the more you learn, the greater the complexity of things become, and the less sure you become in any previous things you knew. Even Einstein wasn't sure in some of his theories, and he was quite smart.

thebugger

7 years ago

Basically stupid people sound more confident than smart people

Dholms22

7 years ago

So Tesla was stupid? Einstein even quoted tesla as being the smartest man in the world. Thermodynamics does play a factor at given frequencies. Your words are abrasive, downgrading and thats ok. The numbers dont lie

thebugger

7 years ago

Tesla was not stupid. Just stupid people take his words and inventions out of context. His dream was of wireless electricity without the inherent losses we see typically when transmitting power at distance. He was a smart man and understood the most basic laws of physics, and he DIDN'T think that power can be generated from nothing - that's absurd. Also every single thing in our universe from quantum mechanics to the macrouniverse obey the laws of thermodynamics, not on ,,Given Frequencies''. My words are neither offensive, nor belittling, I'm speaking with facts, theories, experiments, that have been proven over and over and over, by people like Einsten, Tesla and a shitload of other people. You speak about conspiracies.

LeButch

7 years ago

Poor Tesla... I guess he flipped in his grave if he knew people used his name to strengthen free energy theories.

thebugger

7 years ago

Anyway from your simulation I see a loss of power at around 60%. The input power is 571,454kW and the output power 240,185kW, giving an efficiency ratio of 42%. Your system not only does NOT qualify for a free energy machine, but also wastes huuuge amount of power and is utterly inefficient. Try it at home and you'll be paying not 120$ for electricity, but 1200$ :)

Dholms22

7 years ago

Do you guys to troll like this? Im just curious.

LeButch

7 years ago

Ok, I will asl again. If this really worked and free energy is discovered, why do we still use common generators to power the world? It would be much more adorable for companies to sell energy generated out of nothing instead of buying fuel.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Like renewable energy? Dc to an ac conversion is creating a different type of energy at given Frequency. You guys take these laws of thermodynamics way to serious

Dholms22

7 years ago

Do you know what kinds of energy most of these companies power on?

thebugger

7 years ago

The laws of thermodynamics are the only thing in our current understanding of the universe which works at every single layer of reality. ABSOLUTELY everything is governed by these laws. From subatomic particles to electromagnetic waves at EVERY FREQUENCY, not just a few frequencies. As I mentioned, even black holes experience entropy, through Hawking Radiation. There is literally no source in this universe that will last forever. It's preposterous to outrule the laws of thermodynamics. It's like saying up is down and vice versa. Please refer from making these kinds of statements in front of people. It shows your miniscule knowledge of the topic, and your great ego about it.

thebugger

7 years ago

Power companies always use mechanical energy to generate power. Either through burning coal, or using decay as a heat source, the principle of a power plant is to generate enough kinetic force (like steam), to power a turbine generator. The only energy source out there that doesn't work through a mechanical principle is solar panels - they use a photovoltaic principle to generate electricity.

LeButch

7 years ago

When we say law, we dont mean a law someone created. It is a natural law we can not break, even if we tried. Same thing with gravity. You cant just say I break the law of gravity and fly away.

thebugger

7 years ago

Gravity is a bit tricky, not well understood at the moment, but thermodynamics is a well established natural law, and to say it only works at ,,given frequencies'' is preposterous. Everything decays into a final unusuable state - that's what the law dictates.

LeButch

7 years ago

But the comparasment is well for macrocosm.

Dholms22

7 years ago

If the wardenclyffe tower existed then these laws of thrmodynamics haven't been tested thoroughly enough. Thats my only viewpoint on this scenerio.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Have you guys tested the magnetic amplification method on bifiliar coils?

LeButch

7 years ago

Why does everyone think this tower created free energy?! You put electrical energy in the tower and it radiates it in the air. It does not create any energy from nothing. It is working like a wireless charger on a larger scale.

thebugger

7 years ago

Wireless power vs free power are completely different things. I hate when people take Teslas inventions out of context to power some wild conspiracy theories.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Wouldnt have been possible to have used the earth as a super conducting geothermal earth battery he used to send dc to a high frequency ac at high voltage creating a radiant energy due to the EMF being produced by the hugh voltage conversion

LeButch

7 years ago

This tower was just a large tesla coil. Thats all. And yes, we use earth as a battery, because we burn its fossile fuels. One day the battery is empty, but this will take a while, because we still have fission and maybe fusion energy.

thebugger

7 years ago

Actually he makes a rather interesting point, even though almost nothing is correct in the statement he made. This effect is called superradiant scattering, and is a proposed energy generation method by using high rotational velocity objects and sapping away their energy, thus modulating and exciting an electromagnetic wave into amplification, although this method is not feasible on Earth. It is only a theoretical proposal, but its implications are that if you have a virtually endless rotational energy (I stress on the virtually), like a rotating black hole, you can encompass it in a reflecting surface, open a windows and insert some electromagnetic radiation inside. The EM wave will start bouncing from the event horizon to the mirror-like surface, and again inward, each time sapping rotational strength and amplifying exponentially. Some energy will be lost in the event horizon itself, but bottom line is - it only feeds the black hole, so it will be used up sooner or later. This is probably the most efficient source humanity can ever hope to think off. Anyway, earth's rotational energy is nothing compared to that of a black hole, and our surface is quite opaque to radiowaves, so a bigger portion of the wave will be absorbed, than it is amplified. Anyway, earth does have a naturally occurring resonance frequency of around 6-7Hz, that is frequently excited by lightnings and other naturally occurring phenomena, but we can't use it for an energy source, because it is considerably weak, and a huge antenna will be required to collect it.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Or just simplify quantum physics by using the measurement of magnetics? 2billion gauss in one amp. Magnets are measured in gauss. My purpose here is to achieve freedom and answers. Thats all

thebugger

7 years ago

Magnetism is also a finite force, and is depleteable. You can't juice magnetism indefinitely. A fact is that for every force you use to generate a given type of energy, some losses are dissipated along the way in the form of heat or radiation, so an overunity machine is impossible.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Have you done research on edward leedskalnins magnetic current?

LeButch

7 years ago

Oh come on. This guy was an artist. But I will give him a chance and look it up when I arrive at university today.

LeButch

7 years ago

Dont take me wrong, he was literally an artist, unlike Tesla being an artist for his science.

LeButch

7 years ago

The book "magnetic current" introduces with the following words: "This writing is lined up so when you read it you look East, [...] it will be just as good for your electricity". Well... I dont have a compass with me, but I hope I understand it anyways...

LeButch

7 years ago

Ok, I read his book now (Has only 50 pages with many pictures). The author thinks, magnetic flow is a flow of small non-quantum particles. That is simply untrue. Yes, magnetic fields consists of particles, but they are quantum objects and things are really fucked with quantum particles, so lets just say it is a field. He thinks, that if you shoot the particles out in a specific way, they will just go on floating endlessly. That is not true. Unlike in electric fields, magnetic field lines have a beginning and an ending, or they go in a cycle. His perpetual motion machine does work, tho it is not a real perpetual motion machine. It magnetizes an iron core WITH ENERGY and when you change the core's shaps, some of the energy you STORED in it gets released. Nothing perpetual here.

thebugger

7 years ago

Magnetism is not eternal, and it is about fields, not particles. Fact is, there are no current technologies or even theories that give us a free energy source. The closest to that we can get is fusion reactors that use hydrogen, which is readily available in water (and Earth is quite abundant in that). Everything out there works with the energy that is already present in our universe, and either stores it or transfers it to a more unusable form, until we cannot use it anymore. For instance, you burn wood. You increase its entropy to the point where you can't extract any more energy through burning. So far so good. The remaining ash is mostly carbon composites. Let's say theoretically you can reuse the ash and fuse the carbon atoms in Nitrogen, then oxygen, and all the way up to iron you have an energy source. Very efficient, right? Then you hit a brick wall - fusing iron is an endothermic reaction, and it consumes more energy to fuse, than it releases during fusing. You can still extract the last drop of energy the iron has got stored in it, and after it cools do absolute zero - nada. You see, however smart we try to be, however tricky we use the available materials, we always end up with a lowest energy state, that we cannot use further to extract energy from it.

thebugger

7 years ago

The only time the universe didn't obey the rules of thermodynamics, and the entropy experienced a major decrease was during the big bang. Out of nothingness, everything we see now in the whole universe spun into existence. Perhaps if humanity were to develop a quantum gravity theory, we would be able to simulate this process in bottles and extract indefinite energy from it (like ZPM's in Stargate), but for now, nuclear fission is our best bet to meet the world's energy demands.

Dholms22

7 years ago

What about geothermal power? Have you researched nathan Stubblefield

LeButch

7 years ago

So called earth battery seems to work, but the currents running the battery are no kind of cosmic energy. They are a natural phanomen caused by different things.

thebugger

7 years ago

Geothermal power is also finite. Our core is slowly losing heat with time.

Dholms22

7 years ago

The earth is flat though? I dont believe this core is going to ever lose heat because heat can be recycled

LeButch

7 years ago

Heat us radiate slowly as light. The sun is glowing because everything radiates energy. Hot things radiate more than cold ones, but everything down to -200anything °C radiates. Didnt you ever wonder how infrared thermometers work? They look how much energy they collect.

Dholms22

7 years ago

I know this. What if high frequency created cold radiation?

LeButch

7 years ago

High frequency what? Current through a coil?

Dholms22

7 years ago

From qhat i researched on hith frequency ac power it seems that the higher the frequency goes plus combing the voltage with a magnetomotive force to juice up the amperage with out the need of heat?

thebugger

7 years ago

What perhaps you're describing is Superconductivity? But still, it's not a source until you charge it up with energy. Since U=I.R and there is no resistance in the superconductor there will not be any voltage drop across It, just an endless recirculation of current. You can charge it up to become the ultimate capacitor in a way, as superconductors can withstand many many kA without breaking the Superconductivity, and there are no losses in heat because heat is proportional to power and P=U.I. Since U is 0, so is the dissipated power.

thebugger

7 years ago

And now my opinion of a free energy source. I've had some thoughts on this matter, and however hard I tried, you can't escape entropy. So I figured - why not rule out entropy altogether from our closed space-time system and generate power from a let's call it a sub-universe (a universe in a bottle). As of today, there is still no theory that combines general relativity and quantum mechanics. Such a quantum gravity theory might offer an explanation of the big bang - which is the only time in the entire age of the universe where entropy decreased drastically in a fraction of a second. Ever since, the entropy has been increasing. If we could manipulate matter on a quantum state using a futuristic quantum gravity theory, we might be able to create a bottled universe with a separate entropic state than our own universe. This might be the answer to the question of Free energy. As I said, we are not advanced enough technologically and don't have a working theory yet for quantum gravity, so that's something maybe our kids or grandkids will explore as a theory. The only cheap energy our generation may come to see is fussion reactors, which should be for all intends and purposes a cheap, endless and clean power for generations to come.

Dholms22

7 years ago

I just think we should look into magnetism a lot more than we do now. Cold radiation is possible because ive created it personally

LeButch

7 years ago

What do you mean with cold radiation?

thebugger

7 years ago

Cold radiation is like saying hot capacitance. It doesn't make sense for several reasons. What you and I perceive as cold is probably 0dgs Celsius. What scientists perceive as cold is -273dgs Celsius. There is no extractable energy at absolute zero. You need to understand a whole shitload of things before you state that you have created free energy or cold radiation, because it sounda preposterous.

Dholms22

7 years ago

I guess theres things you havent tested out yet.

thebugger

7 years ago

Look, sorry if this seems trolly to you, but your claims sound preposterous, and I'm mostly sure that your experiments revolve around blowing your fuse while working with magnets and electricity in your mom and dad's basement. I'm sorry, but please rely more on science than pseudoscience. You may want to start with basic natural laws of physics, like thermodynamics, a notion for radiation and absolute zero, also thermal runaway may be beneficial in your studies, and most of all - learn to differentiate all the crap the Internet holds from the real deal stuff. Tesla never intended free energy or anything like that. He was looking for an efficient transmission medium, and hoped he could make a wireless medium as efficient as possible. Something which is more tentative and elusive than what he'd hoped. A 100 years later and wireless power transmission is still astonishingly wasteful.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Everything is stimulated electromagnetically at given frequencies, even the atoms in our cells that keep our bodies magnetically bonded together. Why does our bodies function perpetually and generate a stable heat of only 98.6 ni matter how much power you exert? There has to be a way

LeButch

7 years ago

Our body does not function perpetually at all, it runs with solar energy. People plant crops, which convert sunlight into chemical energy. We eat these crops (or animals that ate these crops) and store this chemical energy to convert it again when needed. Evolution is a mindblowing thing, but it does exist. If you throw 500 planks of wood randomly on a spot, it will just fall on the ground most likely. If you throw them infinite times on the ground, every possibility will show up eventually, like a perfect wooden house. Evolution is not that different. It just tried so often over millions of years, that we developed as we are today.

maxmax_66

7 years ago

The laws of thermodynamics are clear. There is no machine that can be built to output more energy than is put in. There is a clear difference between the sourcing of energy and it's conversion.

thebugger

7 years ago

Which difference is radiated as heat, or some other type of radiation.

hurz

7 years ago

here we have more funny shit like resonance frequency of water is 42kHz .... bullshit entertainment at its best http://everycircuit.com/circuit/4929962596368384

LeButch

7 years ago

Just saying "it is not possible because it is against physical laws" is no explonation for me. Physical laws are made by humen an sometimes they get corrected because they are old. They can be false, so we need to explain why things dont work.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Youve been taught the laws of explosive energy. Not implosive. Explosive energy is red and implosive energy is blue. Can you tell me what electromagnetically connects the atoms of matter together? How does a rock hold its form? Perpetual motion magnetism folks. And theyre held together at resonate self frequencies. As soon as i have the supplies i need to build this ill share the YouTube link.

LeButch

7 years ago

I do not study physics, so I cant tell you what holds atoms together, but defently nothing perpetual. If I remember correctly, it is called strong athomic force. BUT, take gravity as an example. We are not held to the planet because it is producing energy, it just stores it. When we step up a ladder, we burn some of our stored chemical energy to gain potential energy. When we jump down now, we turn this energy into heat. When you separate two magnets, you store potential energy in them. You can let them collide again to gain heat. Why is explosive energy red and implosive one blue...? You can not compare a chemical explosion with an implostion...

thebugger

7 years ago

Explosions and implosions are nothing more than a pressure differential between two distinct systems. They aren't red or blue, they just are. What you are perhaps referring to is exothermic and endothermic reactions, as I noticed you referencing chemistry. This is still a well understood process, and without it neither your refrigerator, nor your AC would work. Exothermic and endothermic reactions are just means to express thermal exchange processes in chemistry and physics. Losses still affect them, and part of this energy exchange process is lost in heat or friction or radiation. Now, as to the basic laws of thermodynamics, the only scales of merit that violate it, without current understanding why, is Planck scales. When a system is infinitesimally small (singularity), only then the laws of thermodynamics don't have meaning. Such a state has only happened once in the history of our universe, and that is the first attosecond after the big bang. Since then the arrow of time has taken a side and entropy is always increasing. I don't know, there are many terms and theories one needs to know, as to explain why FREE ENERGY is not possible in our Universe, but the first law is enough - no energy can be created or destroyed, just converted or stored. We have become masters at converting energy, and storing it, but we might never be able to create it out of nothing. Think about it for a second, it might make sense m

Dholms22

7 years ago

Lol. I can tell none of you have tested these "teachings of knowledge". Like i said we will see.

LeButch

7 years ago

You do not need to proove something, many people have proven before. What you do is denying facts, nothing else.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Give me a month. Ill have a video for you guys. Its really not that complicated. Programming words makes the inevitable impossible if you never test it for yourself

thebugger

7 years ago

Say what, we'll give you years and you still won't reach any success. BTW, us not testing these theories as thermodynamics is complete nonsense. You haven't tested anything yet. I'm gonna prove you thermodynamics right now. You are born from energy, you die and turn to a different type of more useless energy (not that some people aren't useless in life as well). It's all about transformation of energy, until you reach a ground state of zero potential energy. This is the point where you can't extract energy from a system anymore. Magnets and whatever nonsense you can think of (except a few not yet well understood exceptions), obey perfectly the laws of thermodynamics.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Ive already built a sustainable Himalayan salt water battery that produces zero heat. Its just another challenge to overcome

thebugger

7 years ago

No

Dholms22

7 years ago

I have a youtubr channel to prove it

LeButch

7 years ago

Send me the link to the proof

Dholms22

7 years ago

https://youtu.be/2y-w3wv16Uc

Dholms22

7 years ago

I. Still doing further testing with the idea. Im not sure how .8 volts keeps a 3-6 volt motor spinning.

LeButch

7 years ago

Ok. First of all: You do not "charge" this battery. These bubbles forming are oxygen and hydrogen bubbles, which could lead to an explosion if you kept this "charging" up for a longer time. It is the basic principle of electrolysis: water (H2O) breaks down in 2 H and one O. Secondly: You really do have a battery there, tho it is really bad. All you need for a battery are two different metals and an electrolyte. The electrolyte is your salt water and your metals (electrodes) are the two springs. The problem here is, that the motor should already be spinning when you connect it to the "not-charged" battery. Here are two possible solutions: 1. The electrolysis with the salt water forms a little bit of hydrocloric acid, which makes your water be a better electrolyte. 2. The motor needs a higher starting voltage. Imagine rolling a boulder on a flat surface. It needs way more energy to get it moving than to keep it moving. The motor needs to build up a certain momentum before it can run on low energy. Here is how you test, which case is the right one: 1. Mesure the voltage on the metals before and after charging. If the voltage after the charging is higher, case 1 is true. 2. Stop the motor with your hand while being connected to the charged battery. If it doesnt start spinning anymore, case 2 is true.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Once i get some more scrap ill build a better version

thebugger

7 years ago

This is electrolysis 101, and a corrosive one. Your copper electrode will wear thin quite quickly and dissolve in this solution. Also, It doesn't give off any energy, neither does it store any. Just consumes electrical energy and converts it to chemical.

LeButch

7 years ago

Did you read the full comment? There is nothing perpetual. You do not even store energy in your battery.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Obviously the copper electrode is corroding but not as fast as you think. If i had a different type of condutive material that cant corrode fast or slows down the corrosion significantly i might be able to build something. Im thinking about using bismuth next. John hutchison builds batteries that last 50+ years by building pressurized crystal batteries that create "zero point energy" from the slow expansion of crystals he uses to create pressure inside the battery. You should do some research on him

LeButch

7 years ago

What you see convering the copper electrode are leftovers of the other electrode. They migrate through the electrolyte to the copper electrode. If you used bismuth instead, it would still migrate there. But even if it did not, you promised us a proof for free energy, not for being able to build efficient batteries. We know batteries exist, so where is the free energy proof?

LeButch

7 years ago

Just saying "You are wrong" does not change anything. I bring explonations for the things I say.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Battery Update. Works better when you use aluminum, steel and a piece of cloth. Motor spins longer and faster as well.

LeButch

7 years ago

How about you tested the two things I asked you to do in my comment?

Dholms22

7 years ago

I have a kid and a blackmailing wife. I only have so much time to do these projects

LeButch

7 years ago

Wrong, you just know that I am right and you don't want to destroy your wrong science illusion.

Dholms22

7 years ago

Lol i wish that was the case.

LeButch

7 years ago

Then proove me I am wrong!

Dholms22

7 years ago

Bifilar coils seem to have a huge impact. Not over unity but im close as shit and im using a reedswitch. Im real close! Im thanking lasersaber for this idea.

LeButch

7 years ago

Look how this device works: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device

thebugger

7 years ago

I'm not sure anymore what you're trying to do. Reed switches bifilar coils... At least you're learning new stuff, but don't get your hopes up. You're just doing some electrolysis.

Dholms22

7 years ago

I dont understand what youre trying to tell me with that link lebutch. Now have you guys looked into edward leedskalnins perpetual motion holder? Magnetism can be stored perpetually inside a close coil. Increase the magnetic flux in a transformer core mechnically using a pinched coil will increase the amps from the primary to the secondary but but the volts will remain the same

LeButch

7 years ago

Funny how you use "perpetual" in the same sentence with "store"...

thebugger

7 years ago

Yeah lebutch is right, you need to start reading some science and stop with the pseudo-science crap for a while.

Dholms22

7 years ago

You're right guys. It was all an act

LeButch

7 years ago

Well, then thanks for wasting my time.