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yra
modified 10 years ago

My two favorite circuits

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Both of the circuit's are very simple, making some of the building blocks for today's ic intended layout, be child like think simple. Avoid childishness it gets in your way; thinking you can't do that - that way. In the late 1970's when the RISC processor was produced, they never thought it would be available for a few dollars and be used for home automation. Now we call them arduino boards and use them for everything. Simple is good.
published 10 years ago
ferlop
10 years ago
yra, I am with you on simple is better... I have a nagging question, on your timer ic, what is the actual fo, because it changes when you change the time setting........................................... ....................................... It's behaving like the self clocking counters that we started using. Thanks
yra
10 years ago
As i understand this is a infinite clock timer only restricted by the silicon it's made from. Meaning in the real world wire size soldier and manufacturing are the limitations to your question.
yra
10 years ago
The dopeing of the layer is what sets a capacity, resistance or induction of electron flow so mfg sets the limitation of frequencies.. ec is ideal world conditions..
ferlop
10 years ago
I board tested the timer and I was surprised that it actually oscillates at 1666.66.....HZ
yra
10 years ago
Very cool, real world result.
hurz
10 years ago
@ferlop, 1666kHz ? Its close to my first guess ;p http://everycircuit.com/circuit/4522192772530176
ferlop
10 years ago
@Hurz,you are right again, I misread my oscope, been a while since I used this old beast. ...............so it's all in the internal capacitance of the transistors and diodes inside the 555, correct?
ferlop
10 years ago
@hurz, what are the chances that the nikisalli counter oscillator will work in real? ......................................I don't have any chips to run a test how about someone else doing a test on it?
hurz
10 years ago
Yes, the internal resistance of output driver transistor and input capacitance and internal delay does set the maximum operating frequency. One might use this as test circuit for speed selection to compare different suppliers. Nikis osci - the one with counter and inverter - i am afraid it wont work in reality.
ferlop
10 years ago
@hurz, if the 555 is limited to 200KHZ then why is it self clocking at 1.66 MHZ without any problem?
ferlop
10 years ago
Also if you connect an LED to the out put, you will encounter the convergence problem! :)
hurz
10 years ago
From were do you have 200kHz as limit. I remember something about 2000kHz
ferlop
10 years ago
Oh, OK, My mistake, I thought I read it somewhere.

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