Chaotic Butterfly

Looks like a futuristic quadcopter !!!

Did you just do that with fucking oscilators?

A chaotic oscillator. The idea is that in reality the the oscillator cannot be predicted how much cycles it'll spend in one polarity before shifting to the other. That's what the attractor rings represent. Complete chaos. Here in EC it's semi-predictable.

Nice :)

Hey igor are you going to fix logic gates?

Screw the logic gates. Vacuum tubes are what we need, but let's not rush him. I'm sure he's planning to add more components.

Sorry, but this circuit is not even chaotic within EC and will not be in reality on a breadboard. At least this implementation, there are better ones, is doing a stable oscillation two turns/loops on each polarity again and again. Check that at 50us/s its anything but not chaotic! Its just at faster simspeed chaotic, but thats not a big surprise cuz any simple oscillator behave chaotic by coming close to subsampling with the help of EC. The secret of simulated chaotic oscillators is to make them chaotic even at very slow simspeed! This one is a misinterpretation by buggzy.

Are you that eager to write down your comment to miss what i wrote a few comments ago? Yes in EC everything is semi predictable, further exacerbated by subsampling. I too am aware that this is not a final version, and probably won't work on a breadboard, since the op amp at the right is only half of a chua diode. I was thinking about something. Whether I can use a vacuum tube as a chua diode substitute. A tetrode has a negative resistance kink in its characteristic, so it'd make a good substitute for the chua diode, i just need to experiment for a while to find that region. It shouldn't be hard, it's always in the beginning of the characteristic. That being said, i have no idea where to even begin designing such a circuit. If someone can give a hand it'd be nice

"Semi predictable" what is that for a shit? EC is 100% predictable!

A good chaotic circuit is working without the help of a bad simulator setup. Long time ago scientists believe they just have to measure fine enough the world and they can predict anything! A good circuit is simulated as slow as you want and still would behave chaotic by itself, but yours does not!

Ok mister grumpy face 😡. EC is still semi predictable, especially if you shake to introduce noise. Then you change the initial state of the circuit which is exactly what defines the butterfly effect.

Now Mr Stubborn tries to switch the topic to escape an explanation of "semi predictable" by suddenly talking about noise inject... Oh stubborn buggzy, even EC noise injection is 100% predictable. EveryCircuit is 100% predictable in any situation, cuz its a numeric machine written based on rules.

But the one factor that is not predictable is when you introduce the noise. It may be after 1s, or after 1.000001s or after 2s, and then you change the initial state, which is what defines the unpredictability. That makes it semi predictable because EC follows predictable algorithms, and you introduce a non predictable variable.

Anyway the point of the circuit wa never to show a working specimen, I was just bored and i find the oscillogram pretty :D

You are not predictable when you shake you phone. But for EC noise is like a pulse in any component. All states of components current and voltage is known and the noise is just added! So from this point in time 100% predictable what will happen. See EC as the tool which is predicting for you. I will predict for you. Open a new circuit and place a resistor. Connect it single side to ground and put a current probe on scope. Shake your phone, i predict you will see for every shake trigger -30uA! Place a second resistor and I predict -60uA!

You still don't get what i mean. The noise may be predictable, but it's unpredictable when you introduce it. It may be in the begging, it may be a while after, which will cause a different result. You feeling me?

You mean, you are unpredictable and together with EC as 100% predictable simulator its semi preductable. You+EC = "semi predictable". You talking bullshit buggzy

That's exactly what i mean, and it absolutely does make sense, you just don't have much to hold on lately, and you're grasping at straws

You talking bullshit is exactly what you mean! Right

Not much to go on, right? Like the time you started flapping around for me writing KHz instead of kHz. Haha you really are bored lately, and you've got no one to take it out on, so you grasp on straws trying to start an argument. Look man, I'm not here to suit your ego, i will not stoop to your level!

You are here to polish your ego with a straw full of bullshit. See what you made out of your first statement " Here in EC it's semi-predictable. " nobody was shaking its phone. But you talking about semi-predictable. Does your comments must sound scientific for you and your ego even you have no explanation of what it is. "semi-predictable" Sounds like 5% pregnant. Pure buggzy. LOL

Your last comment was completely superfluous!

And by the way everything in the universe is semi predictable, even EC. You can estimate the chance of something happening up to 99.99999999% but there's always a 0.000000001% that something will screw things up, and when you put the insane size of the Universe into perspective, you'll see that 0.000000001% is actually a very big chance ;)

Further dwelling into quantum mechanics tells you that even 99.99999% is impossible, it's more like 50%/50%. Read about Schrödinger's Cat

Are you drunken, or just talking to yourself?

I think uou need my help here, not about thr circuit but about. Probabilty and quantum mechanics was invented by the capitalist ( capitalism) ,, so they (!!!! Thr capitliseres) don' t have to pay up when their products fail to meet their own standards,, like the ( dead parrot in montipyton) the deadcparrot is alive only if you don' t open the box csuse yiur measurments makescthings disapear and make thr universe turn left IF it was going to the right. PROBABLY!!!!!! You ee any bull sh** t and any gubuldy gook is PROBABLY true, so you can' t have your money back. And thecdead parrot was PROBABLY not dead when you bought it and IF was dead at the time of purchsse it is because you opened the box to see if it is alive.