sircube

modified 9 years ago

Dear EC community

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09:02:41

I know this has been said many times by many people, but someone seems to not understand. EC is a place where we can share ideas and circuits, and we can discuss about them together. There is a major problem with this, and we all know what it is. I am talking about posting every day the same circuit, or the same school exercise. You scroll a few seconds on the "recent" page, and you find at least three 555 astables, three bridge rectifiers, three LED examples. Now, we all know Ohm's law and Kirchhoff's laws, we do not need a "resistor example" every other post. I am not saying that I do not want newbies here, someone who wants to learn is always welcome. 
But please, stop sharing incomplete/useless circuits or school homework, unless you have a specific question or something interesting to point out. I know that many people will get me wrong and I am quite new to this community to say these things, but I wanted to share this with you guys. Tell me what you think. 

published 9 years ago

slodpicker

9 years ago

Ignore this fella, up load what ever you like.

nikisalli

9 years ago

You're absolutely right. Sometimes you find like 20 circuits with resistors

thebugger

9 years ago

Yeah, do whatever you want but keep it private. Publicate only the good stuff. I rarely find something worth discussing

sircube

9 years ago

Exactly @thebugger

hurz

9 years ago

Sorry, but you guys propably forgot how it feels if you make your first circuit a "working" one ever. As long people/kids are praud on what they managed to do, its absolut no problem. NO kid, whos using EC as toy for its first contact with electronic will read your "Dear EC community" appel or follow it, cuz they just feel happy. Next they will build/construct a perpetuum mobile. Who cares. Thats normal and no one of us will change/🚫 that. This is how mankind and kids function. We shouldn't even try to stop them!! Animate kids to try bullshit is what we have to do! But now the limit comes (please listen carefully) if kids, start to explain what awesome machine they build, and they start writing description, we have to read it and ask the right question back to them to bring them done to reality, to what we know.

nikisalli

9 years ago

I'm 15 but when i posted my first circuit i was 13 years old and after that i started to post more complicated circuits not the same resistor network every time!

nikisalli

9 years ago

This is my first circuit http://everycircuit.com/circuit/6354625641840640 i did not even know what time scale was and literally copied it from the examples!

hurz

9 years ago

Mental and physical I expect an average age of much below 13 here. Maybe 10. You are the exception that proves the rule.

nikisalli

9 years ago

10 years olds here? Wtf?

sircube

9 years ago

Just for your knowledge, I am 19

zorgrian

9 years ago

Just for your knowledge I am 55 but I still see things here that I either forgot or occasionally that I have never seen. I dont think age has much to do with it, I do thing trying to censor people is wrong

Twistedlink07

9 years ago

Regardless of personal stance on the matter, I hope we all can appreciate the irony in the absence of a complete or useful circuit whose description is addressing a concern for the lack of complete or useful circuits.

thebugger

9 years ago

I'm 21 and the information which one uses to build a good circuit tends to overwhelm me, so I just use EC as a notebook, to write down stuff I'll be needing later on, and maybe share it with others, so that they may make good use of it as well.

kubamynar

9 years ago

It's very very pí**#

maxmax_66

9 years ago

@Twistedlink07 LOL. I've pointed this out to other irony impaired users, most notably BigB. Wait a minute, this isn't BigB under under a different handle, is it? Colour me suspicious, but the rhetoric seems familiar.

zorgrian

9 years ago

Also, to start with "I know this was said" is immediate admission of defective cognitive and memory function. You meant to say "I know this has been said" or at least this is the simplest correction to the grammatical failure of your opening sentence. My point is that if your posture is to attack a whole section of EC users, then at least you could get your English in a better condition!

hurz

9 years ago

@zorgrian, I don't see a valid causal relation between english and electronic. Not even a correlation.

zorgrian

9 years ago

@hurz I completely agree that there's no real parallel between electronic circuits and English. However, this guy is attacking a section of EC users. In whatever language this person may choose, at least the logic behind the grammar should be correct? Especially when a number of us have responded to the implications of the message?

oO_toOomy_Oo

9 years ago

you are rightttt

zorgrian

9 years ago

In this respect there must be a correlation between the ability to formulate the syntax of a language and the ability to formulate a plausible or reasonable and persuasive argument

zorgrian

9 years ago

Indeed, this person is not commenting on electronics as a subject at all; rather the message concentrates on proposed prohibition of simple circuitry from users who may just have started out in an interest with electronics

hurz

9 years ago

Awaiting feedback from @sircube. Lets see, maybe he completely changed its mind.

sircube

9 years ago

@hurz Here I am. I did not change my mind, but probably many of you misunderstood me. You remembered us what feels like to create something that works, when you are new to the subject, and I agree with you. But here in EC you are not forced to share your works, and neither you are forced not to do that. So, many people can just set their circuits to private, when they see there are many other posts very similar to their. Regarding @zorgrian, this is not censorship in the first place, and I do not want censorship at all. That would be the ruin of any community. In conclusion: post whatever you like, no one can stop you and no one would do that. But, when you post something, give us something to work on. I mean: if your circuit does not work, explain what you have to do and what you think is the problem. The community will see your issue and try to fix it, as always. What I do not like is the lack of explanation by many people in their circuits' description. If it is a simple circuit, explain it. I do not want to forbid anything.

sircube

9 years ago

Also for @zorgrian : I made some mistakes, english is not my first language. @maxmax_66 I do not know who BigB is.

zorgrian

9 years ago

@sircube As English is not your first language, I commend you in your ability to set out your argument. However, I do not see how you would implement this unless you plan to be a dictator or persuade the staff at EC and its CEO to adopt your ideas.

sircube

9 years ago

@zorgrian I do not want to be a dictator nor I want to block anyone who wants to publish circuits. This post is meant to be a kind of "reminder" for users, to make everyone think twice before publishing stuff. Again, I do not want to attack anyone nor offend anyone.

zorgrian

9 years ago

@sircube it is good that you don't want to be a dictator or any other kind of troll. For your information, since being attacked by EC users more than a year ago I adopted a policy of private operation. I only publish a circuit if and when I feel it may be of use or if I feel that it would welcome the comments of the EC community. Having said that, I always expect a full attack although I shall admit that such attacks are now far less frequent than before. I do know that being attacked can feel quite unpleasant. For this reason I am concerned for those new to electronic circuits who have posted some circuit in good faith, yet experience this nasty side of the community. I hope that we all become more tolerant of each other. Obviously, at times arguments break out. Maybe this is healthy as it demonstrates passion for the subject. Enjoy... 73

sircube

9 years ago

@zorgrian I agree with that. On one side we have to think about what we publish, on the other side we must be more tolerant and more helpful. This was a nice discussion, have a nice day.

cleersmith

9 years ago

Having acesss to such a vast EC group & their ideas & comments at all levels, should inspire you & make you aware that you are amongst greatness; for some of those you find hard to tolerate their poor knowledge of circuit design & electronics, will surely go onto & into much higher levels of understanding of future electrical, chemical, fluid logics & all manner of technological advances that have not been thought of yet & you can be part of that advancement by supporting these individuals, not criticizing them, interact constructively- the universe is testing you- this will certainly teach you tolerance & a whole plenitude of other skills. Rise above your ignorance & see that what you have done here is another form of that you complain about. Help these newbies with constructive comments; sure they may all be submitting 555 stables but you will see over a large sample size of such postings that trends will be unfurling & every posting is helping the development of knowledge to progress. Skip the postings you find tedious, but look sometimes for postings that will or may contain info that may apply to circuits in high radiation space travel for example, who knows; do not try to short circuit Destiny

bradfordsedito

9 years ago

Amen. Be original. Get weird with it. Have fun and evolve.

permofit

9 years ago

Does any one know how we or if more component can be added i would like voltage regulators

sircube

9 years ago

@cleersmith I will.

sircube

9 years ago

@permofit We have to wait for the next update. From what I read, they will add vacuum tubes and other new stuff.

sircube

9 years ago

@bradfordsedito and @cleersmith You both are right, sometimes we can get a revolutionary idea from a simple example or weird creation.

emogenet

9 years ago

All's thats needed is a proper reddit/stack overflow style upvote/downvote mechanism so I never have to look at yet another joule thief in the "popular" section. The current ranking mechanism is broken.

polytopal

9 years ago

It hinders me personally in that sorting through the vast creations in search of something useful is pretty difficult, but I'm not sure there's any easy solution. Thanks sircube, important post, I didn't find it offensive at all, and I'm definitely still a novice. As a community, w should improve rating/ranking and categorization, this would probably organically solve any perceived problem.

polytopal

9 years ago

Also, @emogent, good point about ranking mechanism.

nikisalli

9 years ago

Yes i want ranking here

nikisalli

9 years ago

Good idea

zorgrian

9 years ago

The life of Brian "Don't pass judgement on others, or you might be judged yourself"

hurz

9 years ago

Zorg, I agree 👍

Zurkster

9 years ago

Ranking creates unnecessary devide between communities.

sircube

9 years ago

Ranking could be useful, but many people would be discouraged by too many downvotes, especially newcomers. So, if they have to implement a ranking system, it should only allow to upvote something, not to downvote it. Pressing a button is easier than writing a comment, so the risk is to always end up with more dislikes than likes, even if the circuit is interesting.

hurz

9 years ago

Generation FB

sircube

9 years ago

@hurz I swear I was not thinking about fb. But in fact yes, that is the idea.

nikisalli

9 years ago

Yes we need this

nikisalli

9 years ago

An upvote-only system

hurz

9 years ago

Bookmarks are already available!

PoppyPico

9 years ago

Agree with you. Tho I may be an elder still trying to understand the laws and circuits.

sircube

9 years ago

@hurz We should use bookmarks more, you are right! In fact, it is the same thing as an upvote-only system... I did not realize that.

alucardtest

9 years ago

I think also often speaks of these: http://everycircuit.com/circuit/5183658269081600 This is really just filling up the timeline for no reason. There should be something to catogorise between newbie things, questions, and ideas or complicated (and correct) circuits

nikisalli

9 years ago

That is the problem. People filling the page with uncomplete or non sense circuits!

ahmed_mahmood

9 years ago

That's what we must think about it "Create the future" by our ideas, there's many technical ideas but it's need support to make it. this is the Important thing to make something new.

jcamilli

9 years ago

Posting incomplete circuits is not the problem. Cannot blame the community. We should encourage many posts. The EveryCircuit system needs good voting, categorizing and searching mechanisms to help sift through the weeds. That's the only way this can work. That's how Stackoverflow, Amazon ratings or Reddit work.

jamunasingha

9 years ago

I want quantum computing, superposition stuffs here.

jamunasingha

9 years ago

quantum computer circuit board

theDarkBrainer

9 years ago

That's great comment. The real question is how do you get the viable circuits at the top when searching, as crap there will always be.

FernandoCPF

9 years ago

I know that it bothers you to see people publishing circuits without function or something simple. I know it bothers you that people post 60 seconds when there are 24-hour circuits. I know it's annoying to see a dysplay with 7 buttons and we can do it either. But it is a community of 1millon and only 200 people see these comments. The majority is not premium, I know. But think about it a little bit are 1 million. Are 300mil premium. But it is inevitable ...

FernandoCPF

9 years ago

We are in a community of 1 million ... While there are 100 million others ... You may not notice that every 40 minutes and 10 new circuits or 8 and 2 out of 8 and 10 are good. You may not listen to me but all the circuits of 40 minutes ago will be buried with others ... And so the cycle. But you made a topic of conversation. So it will remain in the bookmarks and there will be different good and bad opinions and there will come a time when someone copies almost the same as you said and everyone goes to that circuit (chat or topic). I do not try to offend you or anything I simply tell you that it is very difficult to do what your comment says. Ay 10 experts 50 new and 200 in community 140 do not worry about anything and only downloaded the app to design or test circuits. Now imagine that aya that every 40 minutes. It will simply be forgotten and inevitable. that easy...

xl4u

9 years ago

🏅

Puscifer222

9 years ago

Needs categories and some sort of moderator to inform those inappropriately posted that their circuit is to be discarded if not relocated in a specified period. Of course who has time for that?

FernandoCPF

9 years ago

I do not know because you do not tell musemaze that you add that kind of category?

FernandoCPF

9 years ago

I have an idea put in a corral beginner people in a house to technicians who do not mind seeing circuits but fixing a problem or find a solution hmmm missing something put in a department people who want to publish circuits that are already created as memories of 1 bite (for real and 1gb and you can do that on a computer and teach them to people through a link to everycircuit. Or wait is a community with trolls, beginners, geniuses, people who want to learn, etc. Does it sound like something called youtube ?. In that case we put spam button and not see again or a button to report circuit. Or wait IS NOT YOUTUBE !!!. Well then we better forget this topic that will not end for 100,000 people who have paid and we better create components and improve the application. Would not that be better? :)

tgh

8 years ago

It's not letting me open any circuit that has a number led in it in new

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