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gogi3411
modified 6 years ago

AD converter

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This is 4-bit analog to digital converter with 9 states(8 + state 0). Potentiometer represents input, diodes represents output. One state in analog form is about 556mV.
published 6 years ago
hurz
6 years ago
This is more a 3bit converter. 2³=8 for four bits it needs 2⁴=16 levels to separate.
gogi3411
6 years ago
I agree with you but it was supposed to have 16 states but because lack of space it has 9 states and ninth state is 1000 so we need forth bit for that state, so it is arguable.
hurz
6 years ago
math is "arguable" ln(9)/ln(2)=3.1699 lets say its a 3.17bit converter, but by far not 4 bit
lenzrulz
6 years ago
This is the tipping point. If @gogi3411 argues his point of view, @hurz will immediately post a condescending comment!
EdsonEletric
6 years ago
Great circuit! Lack of space is a real issue in this app. I am sure you are able to built the entire circuit if you could. I realy understand you! Keep going! Nice work!
lenzrulz
6 years ago
@EdsonEletric...👍
gogi3411
6 years ago
@hurz that is theoretically right but since there is no such thing as half bit or 0.1 bit etc we need to round on greater number
gogi3411
6 years ago
@EdsonEletric Thanks!
giomix
6 years ago
I excuse me for the presence here of a disturber, you probably already know lenz, now he has invented a new spam method, reporter and opinionist of the other people's projects. He is in search if friends.
lenzrulz
6 years ago
Please don’t embarrass yourself on other users circuits, publish your own circuit and we’ll discuss the merits of your publication, meanwhile have a nice day...😎
hurz
6 years ago
This is not just "theoretically" right. This is a calculateable fact, and we round from 3.17bits down to 3bits and not upto 4bits or why not round 4 upto 10? lol
hurz
6 years ago
@lenski, dont embarrass yourself, you do not know when things are good or bad, or why have you copied a crap website 1:1. LOL
lenzrulz
6 years ago
Lol...😂
hurz
6 years ago
@lenski, why have you copied CRAP from a CRAP website?
EdsonEletric
6 years ago
While somebody do not explain us how to represent the sequance from 0 to 8 in binary with only 3 bits, this circuit is still a 4 bit ADC and the work continues awesome! Congrats Gogi!
hurz
6 years ago
@EdsonEletric, sell this as 4bit ADC and the world will call you a charlatan. Its a 3 bit flash ADC nothing more. Everything else is fantasy wish and hope. I calculated for you the exact number of bits it does and we get 3.17bit but not 4.0. This rounding hide the circuit must br doibled in size. So you sell something half the size and you want to call it 4bit, LOL
lenzrulz
6 years ago
Yep, the moment someone has an alternative point of view, @hurz becomes condescending, that’s how it started five years ago and is still continuing today, this man is incapable of respectful discourse!
gogi3411
6 years ago
We have a saying in my country: J te is dosta te vise
gogi3411
6 years ago
@hurz I just say that this has four bit architecture, not all of states that 4 bit needs to have, it still have 9 states but we can't represent number 8 with three bits so we need that fourth bit for last state. We can't make physically 3.17 bits. So this is four bit with 9 states. Thanks for understanding!
EdsonEletric
6 years ago
I think if anybody here wanted to sell a circuit, this person wouldn't post it's scheme here. This app is intended to share knowledge, prototype digitaly what we learned at the academy, try the electronic theories etc, but not for professional product development. If Gogi want to build this circuit, or even me, there are many PC programs for this, where we don't have lack of space. People here are more worried about discussing pointless issues, as we say here in Brazil "searching hair on eggs", prove their point of view as the only universal true, keep their vanity at the highest level, discharge their life frustrations in others comments, this is sad. Gogi was very clear by explaining that the reason why he were not able to represent all the 16 digital states for a 4 bit ADC were the lack of space! But is easier for some to build a delusional hypothesis of selling such a circuit and believe in something that doesn't exist in the digital DISCRETE world (3,169925001 bits [yes, we also have calculators]) than congratulates a dude for a great work. Again, this is sad! We know what people have inside by considering what they give to others. Everyone here have lots of experience and knowledge to share, to teach and learn, but while our proud were bigger than our humanity, this will never end. I stop here this and any other discussion. From now on I will only ask for help, help others and congratulates those whose the work I like. Don't wait my reply. Have peace! God bless you all!
hurz
6 years ago
@gogi3411, and yes we can make 3.17bit ADCs yours is one! Good to see you understand, and stop listening to our charlatan is is just here to provocate. BTW, your architevture is also valid for 8 or more bit flash converter. Unfortunately its just a 3.17bit one, congrats. @EdsonEletric, the headline said 4bit ADC, this is gone, 👍 still the description start wrongly with this 4bit ly. It does use the bit number 4 but only for one tick, a full 4bit one need 7 more!! What is you do not understand. Want you feel cheated if you buy such a "4bit" ADC but its performance is exactly 3.17bit or rounded 3bit?!? He scratches the bit nr 4 for only one tick, nothing else.
hurz
6 years ago
you probably would even buy an 8bit ADC which is internaly just a 7bit+1 ? In Brazil sure, 8bit suppose to have 256 steps and you tell us 7bits +1 for 129step this +1 makes it an 8bit converter. Salsa and rum.
hurz
6 years ago
BTW, great your calculator support the keys and you found them. But you must have the formula and this is not in your calculator its in my mind, and also in yours?
hurz
6 years ago
uppps sorry, samba and rum
hurz
6 years ago
@lenski, this is called discussion within a collaboratorish environment. Something you will never understand. Exchange of arguments. Exchange of knowledge you dont have and therefor you cant ! No knowledge No arguments. But you give a shit on knowledge in electronics, but provocation is what you want !
lenzrulz
6 years ago
You’re a cyber bully, nothing further to discuss...😎
hurz
6 years ago
LOL, your lame attacks are to boring. You have understand nothing about this topic but must open your big charlatan foul mouth again and again. Learn simplest basic electronics and start with "parallel resistors". NO cause you are not interessted in electronics? Right, you give a shit, but TERROR. Five or more years of terror and nobody can stop you which makes you proud and happy.
lenzrulz
6 years ago
Can’t discuss anything with a cyber bully who won’t bypass my circuits...🤔
hurz
6 years ago
Lenny you are well known as zero knowleged on the topic "electronic" so what are you doing here? Terror.
hurz
6 years ago
Your cyberterror at least stops any futher discussion and this is a good reason to report you zero-knowledge-charlatan.
hurz
6 years ago
here a 6 years old 5bit ADC or is it a 6bit one? http://everycircuit.com/circuit/6287710301978624
gogi3411
6 years ago
@hurz If I have two cars, but I drive only one and other I never use, does that mean that I have one car?
hurz
6 years ago
you are in the wrong forum, here we talk about electronics, not cars.
hurz
6 years ago
I just read your original headline, now fortunately only in your description, "This is 4-bit analog to digital converter"!! Can you agree to this statement? No, cuz it needs whats coming next. "with 9 states". What do we have. A 4bit converter with an effective resolution of 3bit. Thats it, nothing more to tell if you are honest. Everything else is blah blah and doesn't help to understand what you really present here, red-herrings are not needed. Newbies will be only irritated about your advertising. Wrtie the truth what you have and dont try to make it something what its not is. Its not a 4bit adc. Its an effective 3.17bit adc.
gogi3411
6 years ago
"A 4bit converter with an effective resolution of 3bit." That is what I'm talking whole time!
hurz
6 years ago
no, according to your description, this is what you are talking the whole time: "This is a 4-bit analog to digital converter"
gogi3411
6 years ago
So you say that there are 3.17 LEDs in my circuit?
hurz
6 years ago
go into the next Lab close to you and do some measurements and find out what the effective resulution of your "4bit ADC" is. If you are lucky, very lucky, you will see 3.17bit, right? Stop splitting hairs or red-herrings to talk about "0.17 bits are physical" not possible blah blah blah blah, thats boring and idiotic. The effective resolution of this [4bit ADC] is just bad 3.17bit, voila.

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